Boulder liberals can be scary

Posted in , Liberty at 16:51 by RjZ

During a recent interview, the creators of South Park had this response to Reason Magazine:

Reason: When you say libertarian, what do you mean?

Stone: I had Birkenstocks in high school. I was that guy. And I was sure that those people on the other side of the political spectrum were trying to control my life. And then I went to Boulder [Colorado] and got rid of my Birkenstocks immediately, because everyone else had them and I realized that these people over here want to control my life too. I guess that defines my political philosophy. If anybody’s telling me what I should do, then you’ve got to really convince me that it’s worth doing.

I think they may have a point.


  1. erin said,

    December 11, 2006 at 19:49

    Interesting. And yet in that same article they do their own bullying. When it comes to showing an image of Muhammad, Stone and Parker have decided that they can ignore the cultural practice of not depicting Muhammad. In their world view this is just silly. They try to show the image, but are ultimately blocked by Comedy Central.

    In ignoring another’s wishes and forcing an issue, no matter how silly it may seem to them, isn’t that the same bullying that they claim to loathe? Is their truth the only truth?

    Do only people named Erin/Aaron make comments here?

  2. tim r said,

    December 12, 2006 at 19:15

    Yes, we lefty liberal Boulderites have an agenda to control everyone’s mind. Unfortunately, Trey Parker and Matt Stone have exposed our evil plot in their series South Park. Alas, they will not be foot-soldiers in boulder Birkenstock Legion–because they want to be “different.”

    Last time I checked, a “liberal” thinker was someone who thought freely for themselves, and thought the best rational argument should win the day. The notion of a liberal orthodoxy is as oxymoronic as it is oversold by the radical right wing.


    > Do only people named Erin/Aaron make comments here?


  3. RjZ said,

    December 13, 2006 at 18:00

    I guess I was only saying he had a point in reference to this quote: “If anybody’s telling me what I should do, then you’ve got to really convince me that it’s worth doing.”

    Meanwhile, tim, just because we might have a valid definition for what “liberal” means, doesn’t do any good, if the people claiming the label are a ‘liberal orthodoxy’. The same can be said about republicans. They should be ashamed of the fiscal irresponsibility of those with (R) after their names in congress and the White house, but that doesn’t make it any better for the “true republicans”.

    Still, maybe I am way off here. Maybe the scattered lack of unification the democrats have shown in the last years is really because they too subscribe to your idea that there should be no liberal orthodoxy!

    Oh, and thanks for commenting!!!

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  5. Aaron said,

    December 28, 2006 at 23:52

    I clandestinly watched the episodes in question. As might be expected they had little to do with Muhammad and more to do with the controversy surrounding the showing of his image. That and their feelings on “Family Guy.” On both topics different characters expressed at least 2 different viewpoints intelligently.

    On the Muhammad issue one character believes that everyone should make cartoons about Muhammad because we(America) should support free speech in all cases. Two characters want to ban a cartoon. One because he thinks that it’s irresponsible to do so if even one person gets hurt. Another simply because he hates the show and wants to see it off the air.

    On the Family guy issue some characters believe it’s not funny because all it is is a bunch of interchangeable jokes that have nothing to do with the plotline(couldn’t agree more for the record – I’ve never liked Family Guy because I thought all the jokes were pop and drops. They referenced popular culture and people think it’s funny because they remember it. Not that this is uncommon, I think I enjoyed Dennis Miller’s comedy in part because of the smug satisfaction of knowing who Immanuel Kant was) They also hint that perhaps their particular dislike of Family Guy is because people compare the two shows. They are both animated shows that deal with contraversial subjects, but they feel like their spoofing of popular culture advances a story of some sort. Other characters said it was just funny and they liked it unapologetically. These characters expressed themselves in a reasonable manner.

    It feels MORE balanced to me. But Erin makes a good point. And my views are too close to theirs to ultimately judge.

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